Murdo it's seems so long since we seen you at the pub, and through Lindy, Val showed that you werent getting better .... so many memories flooding by now; you you you ... not just of anything more than talk, but so much you shared of your life as we sat, and i wasnt there as much as many. I'm glad you came to work at the uni but sad it ended in the wrong way... i was trying to remember how long you worked there until i remembered you called me 'noddy' when i was in such a stressful situation i began to have the family trait of head-nod ... and it was you calling me 'noddy' that first got me to attempt to call on H&D; then to realise my goal was to win by offering a deal, and if they chose not to take it, to resign, which i did, to return 2 wks later full-time. While calling me 'Noddy' was in a way 'harsh' ... it was true, and the only way i realised i was under so much stress. from our last conversations i realised your time there hadnt been easy, especially at the end.... we shared a lot of viewpoints about fairness and equality in workplaces, or more to the point, the best way to get things done... The pub has meant so much to me.... a place i could go to i wasnt judged ..... well, apart from your asides ! but i knew they were from a very different life than mine .... and i dug you, i dug our talking, and i dug being part of the table where everyone's viewpoint got a listen to .... and i know often i was a 'chick' in a mans world, and knew when to leave :) ... Murdoch there were a few of us at the same age - you were the oldest by 6 months ... off in the year before we arrived. Was that true about the brick? It's hard to realise you're no here no more murdo ... many many blessings as well as the thousand to you and all your family and all your friends. xxxx